![]() ![]() And that's sort of the realization that- And that's part of his origin. But then the realization he has to have later on, maybe then is, in order to be a hero, he's got to- maybe anyone of us could have made that decision, but in order to be the hero, he's got to be better than any one of us. ![]() He's not really any better than one of us.ĭavid Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick: But it's like the idea of like when he lets Black Manta’s dad die, you sort of like go, “Well, they were bad guys.” So, I can almost understand his decision. ![]() And he's maybe not really emotionally…he’s unfinished. When you start off with Aquaman and this movie, he's walking the walk sort of, but his heart's maybe not in it. The idea of maybe you can do an origin in sort of like how he became the hero. And then you have this, actually his first movie. So, it's an evolution through the decades of different ideas from different creators and everything.ĭavid Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick: Well, I thought, one of the things that was interesting about this movie, having these- You have Aquaman introduced in Justice League really. ![]() That made Ocean Master a better character. And it wasn't as interesting because then you're like, “Okay, he's another, yet another, human villain.” And then by making him full Atlantean and making him, kind of like Black Manta and Ocean Master kind of operate as the dark side of both his halves. At one point, Ocean Master was a human, his human half-brother. And they revamped it in Showcase Comics and it's been revamped over the years. Way back in More Fun Comics seventy-three. You’ve just got to just kind of figured out- The very first Aquaman comic, he was actually experimented on by his dad and could breathe under water. Because there's so many comics and you’ve got to list some bad Aquaman comics too. But how do you make that relatable and how do you make that a story? And it's all in there. Because a guy who swims and talks to the fishes. When you look at these characters, do it from an emotional point of view. Will Beall: But it is, you know, it's a distilling. And Ocean Master is his coolest villain, or second coolest villain.ĭavid Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick: Second. Because people don't really know that Black Manta is like his coolest villain. Will Beall: Having some of the court characters like Mera, obviously, and Orm, Black Manta, how to keep those core iconic characters in there. To sort of fill it out with some of the things from the character's history, I think it was really fun. Or to get, you know, the bongo playing octopus in there. That New 52, that arc, that Throne of Atlantis, was this great little slice that allowed you to sort of focus in, “We're doing this.” And then sprinkle in where appropriate sort of hat tips to the old versions of him. And you're talking about the task of like figuring out what you're going to do. That spine carried through into the film.ĭavid Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick: You have this vast treasure trove of history and long list, like the…ĭavid Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick: Yeah. That was the goal of the comic books and the 25 issues that I wrote. And from that, like that core emotional concept of the journey of him going from someone who thinks he has no home, and he is no one, to someone learning that, “Oh, because he is of two worlds and of two cultures, that he is actually the best bridge.” He's the living bridge between them, land and sea. And having both Arthur and Orm have what, I think a lot of people have, is a simplistic view of another culture that is far away and mysterious and maybe perceived as dangerous. If you centralize and draw on that, then adding the other mythology, the Seven Seas, and the Shakespearian side of his brother being full Atlantean, and King Orm. And by taking that viewpoint, I think a lot of people have on the character and making it part of his emotional journey was really key. And that he's kind of an out of place superhero. I think in animation and comic books, for a long time, people thought he just talks to fish, which he does in the movie very well. And that plays into Aquaman’s perception. And a man, who feels because he's from two worlds, he's from no world. And really distilling it down- I think the concept we kept through the film is the son of the queen of Atlantis and a lighthouse keeper. Geoff Johns: I had a done a lot of the work revamping, with the New 52 comics in 2011. Will Beall: He'd done a lot of the heavy lifting already. ![]()
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